Currently torn...

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck) 10/22/2015 at 21:58 • Filed to: car buying

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My next car, which I might buy much sooner than anticipated, is more and more approaching the certainty of being a coupe. I will own another Tercel wagon someday, but that’ll be for another time in the future. Time to change it up a little. I like wagons, but with her 5-door Vibe, our zero children, and in my case maybe only 2 friends, I see no need to have a vehicle with more than 3 doors, nor do I want one. For the record I still have my truck and will have it forever, God willing.

Here are two front-runners:

1984-85 Celica Liftback GT/GT-S

Pros:
- just look at it
- RWD
- reliable 22RE
- manual
- did you look at it yet?
- 80’s Toyota interiors are favorite Toyota interior
- 30 MPGs if I drive responsibly
- fun!

Cons:
- not luxurious
- finding one with optional AC with be a PITA
- finding one AT ALL has been a complete PITA!
- can get expensive finding a good one; I don’t want a project right now
- not disposable

1994-1996? Camry Coupe SE

Pros:
- top trim level - every option! Power everything!
- leather seats! for me!
- including V6 - I’ve NEVER owned a V6!
- I really dig the profile
- they’re actually cheaper than the above Celica
- certainly more common
- luxurious by my standards
- disposable
- good lazy cruising car

Cons:
- automatic... which maybe I’m ready for. But it would be so much cooler with a stick.
- 90s Toyota interiors are just so ughhhhh and you can’t get a blue interior on this either
- fuel economy stinks, might be worse than my pickup

Well, what do you think, other than your disapproval of my Camry coupe admiration?

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:04

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Do you really need AC around here?

If you get the Celica, I will be your best friend forever.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > TheHondaBro 10/22/2015 at 22:05

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Record-setting summer of HELL around here just happened. Last summer was also hotter. Traffic worse than ever. I want AC.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:05

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I’d say go for the Celica. I like the Camry but I personally wouldn’t go for it. I mean, really, It’s all up to you, so get what you want.

PatBateman > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:06

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The answer is obvious.

wafflesnfalafel > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:06

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That’s a nice looking Camry coupe - those subie GT wheels?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 10/22/2015 at 22:07

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But I want ALL the things!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > wafflesnfalafel 10/22/2015 at 22:07

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I don’t know but they are nice. Stock wheels aren’t terrible though.

TheHondaBro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:07

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Problem solved!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > PatBateman 10/22/2015 at 22:08

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... Allroad?

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:08

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I know. I want lots of late 80’s and early 90’s stuff too.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:08

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While the liftback is cool, there’s always just been something about that Camry coupe to me. I love that profile.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > PatBateman 10/22/2015 at 22:08

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A rental car?

PatBateman > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:09

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If by “Allroad” you mean “707 hp sedan”, then yes.

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:10

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Wait. You WANT a blue interior?

Also a 5 door wagon for the Mrs. says to me she’s prepping for little a one(s)...

PatBateman > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 10/22/2015 at 22:10

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If by “rental car” you mean “707 hp sedan”, then yes.

Amoore100 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:10

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What about a Lexus Supra though?

Toyota Soarers are the best...

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > PatBateman 10/22/2015 at 22:12

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But the base model is a rental car.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Spaceball-Two 10/22/2015 at 22:14

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Stop that! You’ve actually met me — you know better than to leave a small dependant being under my care.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Amoore100 10/22/2015 at 22:15

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That is #3. But really other than looking x1000 better than the Camry, the bullet points are pretty much the same.

Wacko > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:19

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You seem to have a weird Toyota fetish.

I like it. I like old school toyotas, so celica gets my vote.

And are you sure that Camry can’t be had with a manual

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:23

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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Wacko 10/22/2015 at 22:23

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From what the googles tells me, I am 93% positive that you cannot get that V6 Camry coupe with a stick.

My citroen won't start > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:24

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https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/527155…

Buy this, ok thanks

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Spaceball-Two 10/22/2015 at 22:24

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You’re dead to me.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > My citroen won't start 10/22/2015 at 22:26

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Very nice but that’s over double what the Camry would cost. And I work 6 days a week... no time for a trip to Oregon :(

Amoore100 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:28

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Well it’d probably be more luxurious, RWD, but guzzle a bit more fuel...

My citroen won't start > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:30

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Where are you located? So I can scrounge CL for cars you clearly do not want

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:33

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Fine. Amends?

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/523312…

Wacko > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:42

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I believe you, but find it so sad that the manual can only be had in the barebones 4 door v6/i4 but the “sporty” 2 door gets auto only.

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:42

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By the way. I owe you a beer or 5. Drive sent me a little sumthin for the recco so I’d like to pass that along.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > My citroen won't start 10/22/2015 at 22:43

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Hey I would love a 318is but just look at me. I have wonderbread bags for shoes.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Wacko 10/22/2015 at 22:45

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I mean I guess I could look for an older Accord coupe with a stick (they exist, right?) and go that route. That’s actually choice #4 I think...

My citroen won't start > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:45

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I have fun finding cars people don’t want, my answer sounded rude, I apologize haha. “I want a reliable japanese sedan”, Citroen finds you a V12 Jaguar with 45k miles.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Spaceball-Two 10/22/2015 at 22:45

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I’ll take you up on that — wait, you got a cutback for sending me there? I’ve been had!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > My citroen won't start 10/22/2015 at 22:47

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No, I didn’t think you were being rude. However you did use the S-word (sedan) and now I am offended perhaps.

My citroen won't start > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:51

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Unreliable French sedanette is what I meant

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > My citroen won't start 10/22/2015 at 22:53

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[googles]

Well now I’m really confused, because it keeps giving me these Cadillacs:

My citroen won't start > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:55

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I made that word up, huh, there was a Cadillac called sedanette?

Spaceball-Two > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 22:56

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Wacko > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 23:04

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Every import from the 80s had manuals. The 90s is when automatics quietly took over and now in 2015 they have almost completely taken over, except for select few that escape that fate.

Since 1995 my cars have been manuals. Now, since March 2015 my DD is an auto, a CVT actually but I still have a manual Jeep TJ so I still can clutch from time to time. The hardest part for the first few months, and still happen from time to time is my fantom clutch.

My left foot tries to find the 3rd pedal that is no longer there.

TheHondaBro > Spaceball-Two 10/22/2015 at 23:17

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Shiiiiiiit man.

Spaceball-Two > TheHondaBro 10/22/2015 at 23:20

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The benefit of WADOT not using salt on the roads. We get the good stuff.

promoted by the color red > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 10/22/2015 at 23:21

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If you don’t want a project, go for the Camry coupe and hunt for one with the manual gearbox.

TheHondaBro > Spaceball-Two 10/22/2015 at 23:24

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Oregon uses volcanic rock. How metal is that?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Wacko 10/22/2015 at 23:25

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I used to phantom shift my dad’s MDX all the time. “Stop sign? Better shift into first!” as I slam into Park.

Spaceball-Two > TheHondaBro 10/22/2015 at 23:26

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So metal Danzig would punch it.